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 Post subject: New here
PostPosted: Sat Jul 11, 2009 7:07 pm 
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I went through some posts, I see women taking advantage of men here a lot, but what about men who marry for green card? I have been looking on the net on how to deal with this when I came across this forum.Seriously I am so stupid to file for my soon to be ex husband. It was my second marriege, first one also it was marriege fraud ,I had two kids (girls) with him, , we married in 2001, he was in india and I was not citizen yet was going back and forth when I finally applied in 2005 and as soon as he came less then 1 month he moved off said he didnt want to be around.Ins took this as bad marriege.after 6 yrs of waiting for him to come here and start a martital life he left, after a yr with that divorce. I met a guy over the net, he was in the city closer to me, he calimed he was not educated enough and was working at a subway and that his owner had applied for his papers and its in the pipes, and we dated and he was just soo good to me and the girls,this is early 2008,we married in 3 months on jun 9th 2008 then he was saying his boss kept giving him hard time, and he cant do anything because he has filed his papers through him and he is putting him through hell,so I fell bad and I thought lets apply through me so we can get it faster we applied in dec and april 2009 he got his card, I didnt even know when he started cheating on me, may 29th he fought with me that I dont give him enough time and all the bs he could throw , and I know I did what I can for him even the bills for the house most of the financial burden was on me because he wasnt earning enough from his second job as a motorbike sales man. june 1st he says we are over because he doesnt love me any more, I was shocked how can any one just stop loving someone just like that. I was distraught begged him we can work things out,but he kicked me aside like a piece of thrash.On june 4th he says he found another girl and that he has been with her for past month and half and that she has treated him way better then I ever did and he thanks me for filing papers for him and that he telling me to cancle because she will file for him. so he found another person to depend on and kicked me aside. he is telling me that this wasnt for green card and all that yet he also tell me thanks for filing the papers for him and that i'll give you money for it as compensation.wtf?? :cry: I cant belive these people who are just messing others lives just to move ahead. thankfully I never had joint account with him with my money, we did have joint account which had only his money. I could have been mean and nasty,but I let him go, but I heard from friends that if he is selfish and doesnt want to do anything because I sponsored him I will have to end up paying him alimony.well we are almost divorced, just waiting for the court hearing in the papers my lawyer clearly states his bills are his and I am not responsible for him or his bills.Unfortunately my lawyer is just family law so she doesnt know much about immigration laws. I want to know what is this affidavit of support?can this put me in trouble later on?I am actually going to visit the local uscis office next week for mor einfo what other concerns should i ask from them?


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 Post subject: your jurisdiction didnt allow for annulment?
PostPosted: Mon Jul 13, 2009 12:47 pm 
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If you can nail him with annulment for fraud, then the green card can go away- and so can the subsequent filing through another spouse.

Good luck!!!

BTW- for the most part, the US women who are screwed by the Green card Guys are the real tigers. Most US men seem to wuss out during the process;the US women are usually taking it to the mat.


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 Post subject: Marriage Fraud?
PostPosted: Mon Jul 13, 2009 12:54 pm 
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When you say he got his card, did he get a temporary 2 year conditional card? or a permanent 10 year green card?

How did he get in to the United States? Did he use a visa for medical visitor reasons? or a visa to go to school? or a visa for working?

If he gets a perm greencard, and claims he has no job or money he can take you to a federal court to order you to pay him alimony. Did you have a lawyer help you fill out the affidavit of support?

You may want to try for an annulment if you can prove he married you just for the greencard. A divorce wil NOT release you from the affidavit of support contract!


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 Post subject: Re: Marriage Fraud?
PostPosted: Mon Jul 13, 2009 5:05 pm 
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Ed wrote:
When you say he got his card, did he get a temporary 2 year conditional card? or a permanent 10 year green card?

How did he get in to the United States? Did he use a visa for medical visitor reasons? or a visa to go to school? or a visa for working?

If he gets a perm greencard, and claims he has no job or money he can take you to a federal court to order you to pay him alimony. Did you have a lawyer help you fill out the affidavit of support?

You may want to try for an annulment if you can prove he married you just for the greencard. A divorce wil NOT release you from the affidavit of support contract!



no he got the temp 2 yr card, the divorce was applied like 2 months after he got his card,He came through travel visa, his dad was greencard holder so had applied for him but he passed away before the actual interview so his boss(subway owner) had helped him appeal that case and also was giving him work withouth papers.it wasnt untill i applied that his case moved on otherwise it was still pending somewhere i was too naive that i fell sorry for him and applied :( i dont have any proof that he married me for the papers ,he was nevere abusive twards me, it just hit me after papers he just found another girl and he knew that i would be with him through thick or thin, only one thing i asked was honesty and loyalty, and he cheated on me so i would kick him out myself which i did. and then i applied for divorce. he tells me he is sorry that it ended this way, like he actually sympathizes with me :roll: I dont know what annulment is ,I did apply divorce but since its florida and its a no fault law i couldnt put in the papers that he cheated on me and that y i want the divorce i had to say that it was because irreconcilable differences. And i just wanted a divorce, should i contact a immigration lawyer or should i just write a letter to uscis and witdraw my affidavit of support??


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 Post subject: Re: your jurisdiction didnt allow for annulment?
PostPosted: Mon Jul 13, 2009 5:07 pm 
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william3rd wrote:
If you can nail him with annulment for fraud, then the green card can go away- and so can the subsequent filing through another spouse.

Good luck!!!

BTW- for the most part, the US women who are screwed by the Green card Guys are the real tigers. Most US men seem to wuss out during the process;the US women are usually taking it to the mat.



how do I get the annulment for fraud, I dont have any proof, the thing is i didnt know it was going to be like this until after he left, it just hit me wham, He always told me Id never leave you, Your the girl who helped when no one would, Id never do anything to hurt you, but he was the person who hurt me the most. He is the reason I dont ever want to be with another man :cry:


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breaking news, he is caling me up now and wants to reconcile but I have a feeling he just wants to stick around till he gets the greencard permanent, should i reconcile till his temp card expires and i can back out at the last moment or should i just tell him no and get the divorce and be done with him?? He rides a motorbike, I know in future if he ends up as a disabled person he might drag me to court for alimony. Right now money is tight as with me paying all the bills alone and the divorce case, if there are any immigrations lawyers or some one with good knowledge, suggest of how to handle this guy, to tell you the truth I am not vengefull person but i really want him to loose that greencard statusand for the reason he duped me and hurt me I want him not to get away with it. Id rather see him back again working at some subway without papers.


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PostPosted: Wed Jul 15, 2009 12:00 am 
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You would be best served by avoiding contact with him and proceeding with the divorce or annulment. A lawyer in your area can best tell you whether or not you could be successful with an annulment.


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PostPosted: Wed Jul 15, 2009 11:04 pm 
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Yea I told me divorce lawyer about the affidavit of support what she proposes is have him sign a legal doc that he will never claim any rights on affidavit of support now or later.and he agreed to sign on that on because I told him he either signs it or iam not divorcing him so he can't marry the other girl and can't reaply,so he agreed.then I plan to write a letter and withdraw my affidavit of support as well.


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 Post subject: Re: Marriage Fraud?
PostPosted: Thu Jul 16, 2009 12:20 am 
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lost123 wrote:
Ed wrote:
When you say he got his card, did he get a temporary 2 year conditional card? or a permanent 10 year green card?

How did he get in to the United States? Did he use a visa for medical visitor reasons? or a visa to go to school? or a visa for working?

If he gets a perm greencard, and claims he has no job or money he can take you to a federal court to order you to pay him alimony. Did you have a lawyer help you fill out the affidavit of support?

You may want to try for an annulment if you can prove he married you just for the greencard. A divorce wil NOT release you from the affidavit of support contract!



no he got the temp 2 yr card, the divorce was applied like 2 months after he got his card,He came through travel visa, his dad was greencard holder so had applied for him but he passed away before the actual interview so his boss(subway owner) had helped him appeal that case and also was giving him work withouth papers.it wasnt untill i applied that his case moved on otherwise it was still pending somewhere i was too naive that i fell sorry for him and applied :( i dont have any proof that he married me for the papers ,he was nevere abusive twards me, it just hit me after papers he just found another girl and he knew that i would be with him through thick or thin, only one thing i asked was honesty and loyalty, and he cheated on me so i would kick him out myself which i did. and then i applied for divorce. he tells me he is sorry that it ended this way, like he actually sympathizes with me :roll: I dont know what annulment is ,I did apply divorce but since its florida and its a no fault law i couldnt put in the papers that he cheated on me and that y i want the divorce i had to say that it was because irreconcilable differences. And i just wanted a divorce, should i contact a immigration lawyer or should i just write a letter to uscis and witdraw my affidavit of support??



Its not the abuse. LOOK at the facts. In INS trouble, questionable status and then you come along. As soon as his problem is solved, he kicks you to the curb. What state are you in?
BTW- read the CA case Marriage of Rabie. . .


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 Post subject: Re: Marriage Fraud?
PostPosted: Thu Jul 16, 2009 10:47 am 
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william3rd wrote:
BTW- read the CA case Marriage of Rabie. . .


Please William provide a link to it. Better yet make a thread about the possibilities of an annulment and I will make it a sticky. I would like people to know that you are an immigration attorney who has had success at getting an annulment for a client and that you have the heart to defend the true victims of a sham marriage.


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PostPosted: Thu Jul 16, 2009 5:47 pm 
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Yes its not abuse I never said that it was.he just was with me till he needed his valid driver license and green card,and then gone. I am in florida,west palm beach


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PostPosted: Fri Jul 17, 2009 7:37 pm 
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lost123 wrote:
Yes its not abuse I never said that it was.he just was with me till he needed his valid driver license and green card,and then gone. I am in florida,west palm beach


What William is saying is that you have a chance at getting an annulment and this would be your best chance at getting his green card revoked and for you to wash this man out of your life.


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PostPosted: Sat Jul 18, 2009 11:48 pm 
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thanks all i told my divorce lawyer and me and her will actually be going to an a immigration attorney because as per the copy of the affidavit of support that my attorney got from my ex's attorney Im on HOOK, so me and her will be meeting a immigration lawyer friend that she has. Will keep posting though, youv all given good feed back ,really appreciate it. thanks much.


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