ImmigrationFraudVictims

Hello iam married to foreign spouse since may of 06 she has 3 children when i agreed to marry her if she give us some space for a year or 2 so we can get used to each other,well we where married in may i got her 1st kid in july,then her grandmother in august.thats 4 people in a small 2 bdrm apt.I was overwhelmed i told her i'd been single all my adult life and i had to be kinda smoothed into married life with people around me i've always lived alone.By the way her other children lived with aunt in az,the aunt didn't want the grandmother living with her,or her son from what my wife told me.So in august we rented a home her granma went back to the philppines,in september things had boiled over,and we had a domestic altercation.I went to jail for about 2 hrs. I was sentenced to 1 yr probation.Since then we've reconciled but after 2 mos. i left from the new house we moved in her and her son where both working enough to pay rent.I get a letter in march saying that i owe $3,000.00 in back rent iam like what? The landlord says that i ran out on lease i told her my wife and son are living there and both are working being capable of paying rent.Come to find out my wife has given her a sob story.About me leaving her penniless,now we where sued for back rent in court while my wife and her son are still living there to this day.The landlord served me with garnishment papers a month later.I went to interview with my wife for greencard after we where sued,and we lied and said we lived together still,instead of saying we are on the verge of divorce.Now iam pissed because she is telling any and everybody who'll listen about how bad i treated her.What shoud i do i wouldn't not care if she and her kids are deported.She has even turned some of my on family members against me.

Topic was moved from Question/Challenge, which is for questioning or challenging our grievances.

Hi julmo76,

It sounds as if you have gotten yourself in a bad situation. You should definitely be talking to a lawyer.

As for the rent and garnishment, if your name was on the lease, even if you were not living there, I would assume you are still liable. A lawyer in your area could tell you for sure.

I doubt you could do anything at this point in time to get them deported, not without getting yourself in trouble. If you knowingly lied at the adjustment interview about your living situation, you would probably get in more trouble than she would. Unfortunately, that is how the system works.

Good luck.

These stories are very sad to read and I keep thinking, why are American men so emotionally vulnerable and lost that we could get sucked into these fraudent situations?
Where did we get lost? Isn't that the real question? Isn't it time for us to grow up and learn the important lessons of emotional maturity?
I traveled extensively and also read a lot about how American men seem enraged by American women and are going to go off and find a "real woman". Apparently, we don't spit shine shoes and iron underwear anymore and our breasts sag so we're out.
WHAT?
To share a meeting I had with a high profile immigration lawyer in Orange County: he thinks the internet is the scourge of emotionally weak people. He has to defend people in immigration court and told me the story of a 72 year old man who found a 26 year old on the internet and when asked if the marriage was consumated, the answer was viagra.
Get me a break!
When I have gone into therapy to ask the question why, at 61 and dynamic and successful and asked where are the men; the answer I received from male counselors is that men are ashamed of their problems and won't deal with them.
You know, we are threatened with terrorism everyday and I want to know where are the men who are going to protect my country?
Are they really in Thailand, having sex with 12 year olds? Are they really in Vietnam buying 22 year olds off the streets who claim to be virgins for immigration sake? Are they really in Eastern Europe buying a bride from a marriage broker?
An undercover journalist, from Forbes went on one of those all male, "get the real women", Eastern European tours and he wrote that the American men were put on buses, plied with alcohol and after a week of collecting all the sex they wanted, they could not longer remember whose tits belonged to whom from all the photgraphs they collected, so they just pulled one out of the pile and the lucky girl got to come to the U.S. as his wife.
When interviewed, they were so ashamed, they claimed to be there for the sights. The couldn't admit the truth.
So stop being ashamed of your behavior...stop being stupid. There are reasons for your loneliness..I know you are being sold sex at every street corner in the world but you really need to get control and stop embarassing me and other American women. We don't deserve it and no, I won't iron your underwear but I will support your decision to get emotionally healthy.
When I ask my intelligent male friends how they live knowing that other men go off the deep end, they tell me they choose to act differently and that seems to work.
Why are you asking Immigration and other federal agencies to defend you; why don't you use this site and to encourage men to avoid the problem?

The assumptions made in the last post are so numerous and false I don't know where to begin.

It is assumed that everyone here met their ex on a sex tour.

It is assumed that everyone here is emotionally troubled and goes abroad to seek a docile little women.

Listen lady, I presume I'm far more successful, wealthy and better adjusted than you'll ever be.

I met my ex in the laundry room at an elite British university.

It didn't work out. However in order to stay in the USA she had to play the game, make false allegations, destroy my reputation and do it all with the help of the American government.

That's wrong.

As far as your "search" goes I'd suggest that at 61 you're a bit old to be seeing a therapist.

It's over, lady.

You're alone and will be for life.

Accept it and move on.

Or at least keep your hatred of American men to yourself...or go join a women's group and find friendship with others who share your hatred.

And leave the rest of us alone.

Interesting that you did not attack the male immigration attorney, or two male therapists or the male journalist or my male friends I quoted; you attacked me..the woman. So I guess this proves my point.
You can be well educated and wealthy and believe that is all it takes to be successful but you have already proved otherwise.
I don't mind being alone...while you get up enraged everyday, defending your wealth and your "honor" I am visiting art galleries, attending classical concerts and theatre.
I prefer this and I don't mind leaving you alone...at all. In fact, if you want to get up every morning and emotionally vomit into the breakfast that another woman cooks for you, I send her my deepest sympathy.
I am sorry for your situation but I wish you would have learned something more important than attacking women. Some humility would be nice to see.

I somewhat agree and disagree with some of the comments made... We should be informing the public about how to avoid being a victim of a Greencard marriage. I'm sure anyone considering marrying a foreign national would have some concern and would be more cautious after reading about marriage based immigration fraud.


My advice is don't marry a foreign national as it's not worth the risk. I know Natasha may disagree with that advice, but that's the advice I give after losing normal relations with my son, my home, everything in my home, savings, two cars, good credit and stability under fraudulent pretenses. Other than losing relations with my son, losing my rights as an American citizen in response to a foriegn national's fraudulent immigration strategy was the worst part of my ordeal. Being treated like a criminal for a year when I was innocent was worse than losing material pocessions. It shouldn't have taken a year for the courts to decide it was probable the residency seeker married for U.S. residency... Can I be compensated for the injustice now please? Don't the courts see that some of these immigration laws do more harm than good and open up loopholes for the system to be defrauded?


My advice to anyone already married to a Greencard seeker would be to start doing a background check now to learn more about who they are married to. Retain an attorney now and start learning how to protect yourself. You won't be able to afford an attorney if a residency seeker secures your assets via a baseless restraining order to fraudulenty aid their I-360 petition.


As far as pinning the fool label on men in regards to marriage fraud, women are victims of immigration fraud as well. Everyone I have met through this group are morally sound and well educated professionals who married foriegn nationals who they thought were of "good morale character". We just made the mistake of following our hearts and getting involved with a foreign national without considering all of the risks or the intentions of the foreign national.


Victims of marriage fraud and an abusive and unconstitutional legal system have a right to be emotional. There should be laws to protect American citizens from predatory Greencard seekers who blatantly defraud the system and U.S. citizens. This form of fraud costs tax payers Billions each year. Until the system is fixed, more men and women will be defrauded by foreign nationals who destroy American dreams to facilitate their own.


Americans should not lose their homes and assets through immigration fraud. Americans should receive due process when residency seekers make false complaints to expedite their immigration process. Foriegn nationals who commit immigration fraud should be held accountable.


Lastly, I don't buy into the sex tourism comment as it sounds like a smear from someone who opposes the group's efforts. The comment has nothing to do with marriage based immigration fraud. I'm betting their compulsion to comment is driven by the group's opposition to laws and programs they may support. Who knows... Could be Helen Reddy for all we know. Roar on... Just passing through.

Thank you for your tempered words. I have been upset with the war and coming wars, gas prices and bank failures that spending tax money to protect adults who lose control, when we all need everyone to be in control is not a way I want my tax dollars spent.
I am glad you gave good advice about not marrying foreigners, especially given our need for security.
For example, American women should not marry men from an Islamic country, without knowing what the inside of a mosque looks like or what is expected from her from his family.
Most of the world lives in proverty. Some of us Americans yearn for the simple, stressfree life and romanticize it in other countries. What we cannot relate to is the desperation and the secret manipulations that poor people use to get out of their situation.
We are naive...me too.
I pray something good will come out of your situation and again, thank you for sharing your story in a way that made me feel more compassion.

I do know things could be worse. Spent a year in Haiti with the U.N. during my four years in the Army.

Didn't want the world. Just wanted a family life. To know someone blatantly used you for a Greencard and robbed you of everything in process is a lot to deal with especially when the courts treat you like a criminal for a year. It took a year before the courts even acknowledged immigration fraud as a possibility. Had the legal process involved "due process", I would not have lost my home and stability under fraudulent pretences. That's why I am opposed to current immigration laws that allow VAWA to be so easily used as an immigration tool in the absence of abuse. Tax payers do not need to continue funding a Billion dollar a year immigration program.

I'll be ready to let all of this go after I take the residency seeker to civil court for fraud. My son come's first, but down the road I'll present my case and let the courts decide. Not looking for monetary compensation, but I want the truth to be known without a doubt.

Hatian Mud Pie ( Real mud with anything of nutritional value added):


I'd eat it for a year if I could find justice... Still working on that.



Regards

Sean....that's an amazing picture. Heard about people eating mud pie.

My son unfortunatley fell victim to the VAWA. He did not seek his wife out on any tour. They met in the USA. She was illegal. He was naive. He wanted a divorce....marriage was just not working out. She knew if there is divorce, she would not get her green card. So she had a plan, a very good one. Had we known about the VAWA....this would never have happened. He wanted to do it the right way, by getting a divorce. Unfortunately many illegal status people know our system very well, using welfare, medical, education and now Greencard system. The loophole is known by them. This is such a terrible violation. Something is so wrong with this picture.

I really wonder what that women's experiences are that lead her to this site. I really doubt that she could possibly have been through what the majority of us visitors have been through. I too was super naive, and I don't think that the suffering that I have had to endure could possibly be a just punishment for that! There are times that I think about the ultimate end to this situation, but I have children that at this time that still rely on me. I have been betrayed by this individual that I thought cared about me as well as, my county. I thought that I was an educated women, I have a degree and a respected profession. Now I don't know what to think and after 4 years I am still trying to chisel out a life for myself that is worth living, but until you have walked in our shoes get off your high horse.

sincerely; cheryl